Hi everyone,and thank you to give hospitality to me on your board
i've registered myself to check if you can help me
i'm trying to write something (not for a book,just as a personal reference for my passion about Belgians ) about the history of the breed....for french dogs and for the italian ones
i'm looking for the complete history of results of the nationale d'elevage,but..
1 i don't know how to find datas (i've sent email to fci,cfbb and fmbb but no help from them)
2i don't even know when it started
3on the cfbb there's a page of results,but it only is about the 2001/2015 years (and the 2011,2012 and 2013 results,all are in the pdf format,are missed)

i would like to have the bobs and bos,and also bis for every nationale d'elevage since the first edition.

i would also like to have the same results for the world dog shows,that started in 1971 (for this i got the starting year at least ) ,for european dog shows and for the FMBB world championships (i don't know when did it start...and i don't know if there's a beauty contest or if it's only about working dogs)


Hope that someone could help me i know they are really hard questions to answer...but..fingers crossed
thanks in advance,and sorry about English but i don't talk French at all and i prefer to write in english instead of using google translator
bye!
Vittorio

Hi Glauco
We are working on a quite similar project
For the nationale d'elevage results, you can find them on "Le berger belge & le schipperke" revues from CFCBB. I began to retype it for the years 1975 and 1976. You can find it here : http://goo.gl/mlCIwq - Folder "Resultats NE". The other folders are the sujets recommandes, reproducteurs d'elites lists, grouped by variety (not complete for the moment).
I don't know yet how to collect the results before 1971, I think the first nationale d'elevage in France was on 1965 or 1966.
For the others shows, I don't have any information, I'm sorry, maybe you can find also some information on the CFCBB books

Amélie a écrit :Hi Glauco
We are working on a quite similar project
For the nationale d'elevage results, you can find them on "Le berger belge & le schipperke" revues from CFCBB. I began to retype it for the years 1975 and 1976. You can find it here : http://goo.gl/mlCIwq - Folder "Resultats NE". The other folders are the sujets recommandes, reproducteurs d'elites lists, grouped by variety (not complete for the moment).
I don't know yet how to collect the results before 1971, I think the first nationale d'elevage in France was on 1965 or 1966.
For the others shows, I don't have any information, I'm sorry, maybe you can find also some information on the CFCBB books

First of all thank you very much for the answer,and for your precious link i've already downloaded all the files...please advice me when you update your archive

for the results...correct me if i'm wrong... "Le berger belge & le schipperke" is a magazine from CFBB,isn't it?is there the list i'm searching for in every number of it?or have i to buy something specific?

i think that for world and european dog shows it's quite impossible to built an archive,but i'll be happy if i complete the french and italian annual championships lists...for the french ones your help is irreapleaceble!
thank you!

Hi Amélie!
Have you some update?
Does the ‘Le Berger Belge et le Schipperke’ magazine come in a pdf/digital format also?
I got Two friends Who went in the NE 2017 with their dogs, Heloise di Torre D’Arese (female, G) and Eragon and Eliot di Colfosco (Males, G and T-sable).

Have you number 415 of the magazine?
Any other new pdf of yours from ‘our’ common project? Thank you!
Vittorio